TheUndertow
Apr 25, 12:39 PM
Here's hoping for more than just SB + TB...
Unshra
Mar 31, 02:34 PM
Count me in among the "I don't like the leather look" camp. :(
Ditto, looks like they skinned the lion and wrapped the skin around iCal.
Ditto, looks like they skinned the lion and wrapped the skin around iCal.
puckhead193
Apr 14, 12:22 PM
wait i'm confused is this for iphone or iPad or both? :confused:
pernst
Apr 23, 08:40 PM
Why?
I thought AT&T's buyout means T-Mobile is going bye-bye?
408 area code, that means cali. is that steve jobs' personal number? :P
No such place as "cali". Please try again.
I thought AT&T's buyout means T-Mobile is going bye-bye?
408 area code, that means cali. is that steve jobs' personal number? :P
No such place as "cali". Please try again.
rmwebs
Apr 28, 05:00 PM
Here's another way to slice it (literally). Flipped half the image. Left the guidelines on this one as well.
Image (http://www.marulla.com/files/thickness2.png)
I agree that this is no substitute for measuring the actual phone, but, at least in that photo, they are identical. Certainly not off by 1mm as the original post states.
Take a closer look at those edges there...they aren't lined up correctly, still meaning the results are out. I agree that its certainly not 1mm, but its still not getting an accurate result. I might even go as far as to say the plastic is thicker, and the band is thinner.
If you look at the middle gridline, you can see very light masking from the black overlapping the white...not a major amount but enough to be a few microns out of shape.
Maybe we should just grab a couple of iphones for...ahem....testing purposes! :)
Image (http://www.marulla.com/files/thickness2.png)
I agree that this is no substitute for measuring the actual phone, but, at least in that photo, they are identical. Certainly not off by 1mm as the original post states.
Take a closer look at those edges there...they aren't lined up correctly, still meaning the results are out. I agree that its certainly not 1mm, but its still not getting an accurate result. I might even go as far as to say the plastic is thicker, and the band is thinner.
If you look at the middle gridline, you can see very light masking from the black overlapping the white...not a major amount but enough to be a few microns out of shape.
Maybe we should just grab a couple of iphones for...ahem....testing purposes! :)
steve_hill4
Jul 25, 10:33 AM
Finally, this is what I have been waiting for.
Not listed on UK store yet, but $69 on US store. Going by that, (being same price as shuffle), UK should be �49. Heck, that's a lot for a mouse, but only �10 more than regular BT mouse and �15 than wired MM, for that you get laser too.
Not sure how often I would use it, too comfortable with trackpad and hot corners, but I will get one anyway. Be handy for later with iMac.
Not listed on UK store yet, but $69 on US store. Going by that, (being same price as shuffle), UK should be �49. Heck, that's a lot for a mouse, but only �10 more than regular BT mouse and �15 than wired MM, for that you get laser too.
Not sure how often I would use it, too comfortable with trackpad and hot corners, but I will get one anyway. Be handy for later with iMac.
AaronEdwards
Apr 29, 01:50 AM
Ok, that works if you are thinking of getting a cellphone vs. not getting a cellphone.
But when you are thinking of getting what type of cellphone, no, it doesn't count. Cause by deciding you are getting a cellphone but trying to decide which type, you already committed to buying the plan,what type of cellphone does not affect the cost of the plan, you are going to pay it regardless. So the cost of the plan really doesn't count for the cost of the cellphone when you are comparing cellphones together.
Maybe if we were comparing getting a landline to a cellphone (where the costs of the service for the landline are going to be drastically different).
Or even if we were comparing going from AT&T to Verizon there might be some small difference. So only if the cellphones are on different networks (with the iphone though, this only matters if you are comparing to a T-Mobile or Sprint phone as you can get an iphone on either AT&T or Verizon so the plan cost will be the same for the iphone as whatever other phone you want to get on either network).
You still don't get the point.
The point is when we are comparing different cellphones to each other, the service doesn't matter cause if you are getting the cellphone, you are going to pay the service regardless and which cellphone you get isn't going to affect the service's price. Therefore it is irrelevant when talking cost of one cellphone vs. another to bring in the cost o the contract.
Total cost matters. And since you are going to have to pay the monthly payment even if you don't use the phone one second or download even one byte, then, yes, the plan is part of the total cost of the phone.
Without the plan, the 3GS costs $449 not $49.
The monthly cost for a 3GS will be higher than the initial payment. And my example is with the cheapest plan I could get, with a more expensive plan the difference in what you pay for the phone will matter even less. And mccldwll has an excellent point about the value of the phone at the end of contract period.
Anyone who is unable to pay the extra $150 up front, probably shouldn't get a phone with a plan that will at least cost you $55/month. And if go for the cheapest plan, then what's the point of getting a smart phone?
Is there actually anyone here who would buy a 3GS over a 4? Anyone who thinks that's a good idea? For themselves? Considering that most people here are talking about waiting for the 4S/5.
But when you are thinking of getting what type of cellphone, no, it doesn't count. Cause by deciding you are getting a cellphone but trying to decide which type, you already committed to buying the plan,what type of cellphone does not affect the cost of the plan, you are going to pay it regardless. So the cost of the plan really doesn't count for the cost of the cellphone when you are comparing cellphones together.
Maybe if we were comparing getting a landline to a cellphone (where the costs of the service for the landline are going to be drastically different).
Or even if we were comparing going from AT&T to Verizon there might be some small difference. So only if the cellphones are on different networks (with the iphone though, this only matters if you are comparing to a T-Mobile or Sprint phone as you can get an iphone on either AT&T or Verizon so the plan cost will be the same for the iphone as whatever other phone you want to get on either network).
You still don't get the point.
The point is when we are comparing different cellphones to each other, the service doesn't matter cause if you are getting the cellphone, you are going to pay the service regardless and which cellphone you get isn't going to affect the service's price. Therefore it is irrelevant when talking cost of one cellphone vs. another to bring in the cost o the contract.
Total cost matters. And since you are going to have to pay the monthly payment even if you don't use the phone one second or download even one byte, then, yes, the plan is part of the total cost of the phone.
Without the plan, the 3GS costs $449 not $49.
The monthly cost for a 3GS will be higher than the initial payment. And my example is with the cheapest plan I could get, with a more expensive plan the difference in what you pay for the phone will matter even less. And mccldwll has an excellent point about the value of the phone at the end of contract period.
Anyone who is unable to pay the extra $150 up front, probably shouldn't get a phone with a plan that will at least cost you $55/month. And if go for the cheapest plan, then what's the point of getting a smart phone?
Is there actually anyone here who would buy a 3GS over a 4? Anyone who thinks that's a good idea? For themselves? Considering that most people here are talking about waiting for the 4S/5.
bretm
Jun 6, 11:28 PM
There should be notification of the time limit you have when using the iTunes store app without having to enter your password, but I'm very sure it's not long though... Maybe if he had just an iPod this wouldn't have happened. Too many overly techy kids these days anyway.....
Perhaps she should lock her phone and this wouldn't be an issue. Mine is set to 1 min I think.
Perhaps she should lock her phone and this wouldn't be an issue. Mine is set to 1 min I think.
Cloudane
Jan 30, 09:30 AM
How does one buy stock anyway? (from the UK)
I have absolutely no idea on the subject, is it just a matter of buying a share at a couple of hundred dollars, watching Apple go through one of its "win" moments then selling it for a little profit ($50 or whatever) just as a starter? What about tax?
I have absolutely no idea on the subject, is it just a matter of buying a share at a couple of hundred dollars, watching Apple go through one of its "win" moments then selling it for a little profit ($50 or whatever) just as a starter? What about tax?
superfula
Apr 22, 04:37 PM
Why is this schmuck on the front page? The guy has a history of trolling for page hits. Now that he's trying to get his new site up and running, it's quite obvious what his intent is. He has as much inside information as my grandmother.
Moyank24
Apr 27, 08:38 PM
It really is a tough choice. I think they're both wolves, because they are both acting weird. Nies may be acting wierder though.
When is the deadline?
When is the deadline?
Don't panic
Apr 29, 03:38 PM
Lastly, I'm kinda bummed that I haven't made the narration yet.:(
Me too. Given the theme i was already picturing myself as the marquee artist of the production ;)
anyway, the situation right now is:
eldiablo: 4 (dontpanic, chrmjenkins, aggie, ucfgrad)
chrmjenkins: 1 (jav)
not voted yet: Lbro, eldiablo
not much room to maneouvre for eldiablo, except in deciding who to infect (if he hasn't done it already).
so tomorrow should be 4 vs 1 (or 5 vs 1 if the hunter is successful). with everyone with equal chances of being wolfized.
it's like starting a new game, a tricky one with two shots at finding the wolf
Me too. Given the theme i was already picturing myself as the marquee artist of the production ;)
anyway, the situation right now is:
eldiablo: 4 (dontpanic, chrmjenkins, aggie, ucfgrad)
chrmjenkins: 1 (jav)
not voted yet: Lbro, eldiablo
not much room to maneouvre for eldiablo, except in deciding who to infect (if he hasn't done it already).
so tomorrow should be 4 vs 1 (or 5 vs 1 if the hunter is successful). with everyone with equal chances of being wolfized.
it's like starting a new game, a tricky one with two shots at finding the wolf
Moyank24
Apr 28, 12:09 PM
Ouch, Appleguy. I believe you may have made our wolfish friend angry. Now we avenge you.
eldiablojoe
eldiablojoe
hypmatize
Jan 31, 04:56 AM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5220/5401263439_a17e9bec6c_o.jpg
- MacBook Air
- iPad
- iTouch
- Apple Accessories
Am I part of the Apple Family Now?
Is that an antec 900 under the desk?
- MacBook Air
- iPad
- iTouch
- Apple Accessories
Am I part of the Apple Family Now?
Is that an antec 900 under the desk?
macgeek18
Nov 16, 09:31 PM
http://uptill1.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/hackintosh-dark-big-thumb1.jpg
Not that I usually condone this type of thing... I want to do it because I have never built a computer before, and just because I can.
I'm hoping for cash for my i7 build for Christmas,I'm saving now and really want a better computer,but Mac is not coming anytime soon,then it hit me,I'm building a i7 pc of equal specs to a Mac Pro,it's hackintosh time!!
Not that I usually condone this type of thing... I want to do it because I have never built a computer before, and just because I can.
I'm hoping for cash for my i7 build for Christmas,I'm saving now and really want a better computer,but Mac is not coming anytime soon,then it hit me,I'm building a i7 pc of equal specs to a Mac Pro,it's hackintosh time!!
leekohler
Apr 27, 01:27 PM
Fair enough, not fact but a blatantly obvious observation which by no means is false, as others have agreed. It may be difficult for you to put things in perspective, perhaps due to the strong emotion after watching what unfolded.
How can you be sure of that? And you're calling me out on applying the word "fact"? Quite ironic.
I seem to have hit a nerve for pointing it out as not genuine, my initial post wasn't even focused on that specific point, but the other poster appeared to be profoundly upset with my reasoning.
No- you hit a nerve when you tried to claim speculation as fact. That annoys me more than anything.
How can you be sure of that? And you're calling me out on applying the word "fact"? Quite ironic.
I seem to have hit a nerve for pointing it out as not genuine, my initial post wasn't even focused on that specific point, but the other poster appeared to be profoundly upset with my reasoning.
No- you hit a nerve when you tried to claim speculation as fact. That annoys me more than anything.
centauratlas
Apr 14, 09:55 AM
Something like that I'm sure, you have:
ix.Mac.MarketingName
you have the "i", as in iOS
then you have the "x", as in OS X
and then you have the Mac
and you have the possibility of "iX" as in iOS X as in iOS for Mac OS X?
WHAT exactly it is or refers to, is an open question, but with the i, the X, and the Mac in the iOS App Store, it is definitely interesting.
Maybe a sign of universal iOS+Mac apps?
ix.Mac.MarketingName
you have the "i", as in iOS
then you have the "x", as in OS X
and then you have the Mac
and you have the possibility of "iX" as in iOS X as in iOS for Mac OS X?
WHAT exactly it is or refers to, is an open question, but with the i, the X, and the Mac in the iOS App Store, it is definitely interesting.
Maybe a sign of universal iOS+Mac apps?
Evoken
Apr 22, 07:20 PM
Heh, the mockup looks terrible...no way Apple will make something like that...specially after making a work of art like the iPhone 4.
iShater
Sep 26, 11:11 AM
I'll bring my systems back online 24/7. I kinda got tires of the locked up core on my macs so I fold only on my pc laptop during the day.
ten-oak-druid
Apr 28, 06:16 PM
I think getting a white backplate and keeping the black front is the best of both worlds. That white front looks ugly and disoriented with an obvious front cam and that black PS (looks like sharpie has been applied to the mesh grill original design), and when the screens off, looks even worse.
I'll stick with mine :)
I think just the opposite is better. I like the white front but I think the white back is hideous.
http://maxcdn.fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/591/528/247/004/bele_and_lokai_star_trek.jpg
I'll stick with mine :)
I think just the opposite is better. I like the white front but I think the white back is hideous.
http://maxcdn.fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/591/528/247/004/bele_and_lokai_star_trek.jpg
Snowy_River
Jul 12, 01:07 AM
At $79 a year it will probably be 5 years before the program moves to a commonly useful level where it may have the ability to replace MS Office. The very casual Word Processor user will not have to wait very long, maybe Pages 3 or Pages 4. With the 5 X $79 = $395 we move into the price range of the non-educational price of MS Office. But for the heavy Office user, 5 years may not be long enough...
Hmm... Let's start with the idea of present value. $79 spent a year from now isn't worth $79 today. So, $79 a year for the next five years is actually only worth $300-$361 (assuming a possible APR of between 3% and 10%). Now, that's compared with $399.95 for Office. Hmm. But there's another factor here. If a given upgrade doesn't have any features that are compelling to you, you don't have to get it. Wow! That would mean that iWork would be even less!
Now, all of that being said, of course if iWork isn't functional for you now you shouldn't get it. But if it is, as this thread has shown that there are a lot of us out here for whom it, in fact, is, then there's no reason for us not to get it. So, all around, I'd argue that iWork is a cost savings over MS Office, even if you upgrade every time.
Plus, if all you need to make it a worthwhile office suite is a spreadsheet, then there are a variety of options at various price points. These include OpenOffice Calc, KOffice KSpread (both free), Mariner Calc, etc.
Hmm... Let's start with the idea of present value. $79 spent a year from now isn't worth $79 today. So, $79 a year for the next five years is actually only worth $300-$361 (assuming a possible APR of between 3% and 10%). Now, that's compared with $399.95 for Office. Hmm. But there's another factor here. If a given upgrade doesn't have any features that are compelling to you, you don't have to get it. Wow! That would mean that iWork would be even less!
Now, all of that being said, of course if iWork isn't functional for you now you shouldn't get it. But if it is, as this thread has shown that there are a lot of us out here for whom it, in fact, is, then there's no reason for us not to get it. So, all around, I'd argue that iWork is a cost savings over MS Office, even if you upgrade every time.
Plus, if all you need to make it a worthwhile office suite is a spreadsheet, then there are a variety of options at various price points. These include OpenOffice Calc, KOffice KSpread (both free), Mariner Calc, etc.
AndroidfoLife
Apr 13, 11:34 PM
The original smart phone.
I the first iPhone is FAR from the original smart phone. First Smart phone that was simple to use. But far from original.
I the first iPhone is FAR from the original smart phone. First Smart phone that was simple to use. But far from original.
kbmb
Apr 12, 09:52 AM
And what exactly do you plan to run on that extra horsepower? What effect does it have on battery power.
Congratulations on being caught up with the sheep in the new CPU clock speed race.
WHAT? Can't I send texts twice as fast? Check my Facebook page more often with a dual core?
:confused: :D
-Kevin
Congratulations on being caught up with the sheep in the new CPU clock speed race.
WHAT? Can't I send texts twice as fast? Check my Facebook page more often with a dual core?
:confused: :D
-Kevin
Steelers7510
Apr 14, 07:25 AM
I kind of feel like they are releasing this now so that they have something to hold everyone over for the iPhone 5. It is possible that Apple is going to release the iPhone 5 late in the year or early 2012 so the next one can be LTE. We all know how Apple likes to take there time adopting new technology. *cough* no 3g in 1st gen iPhone *cough* ;)
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